tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post2112447477708250778..comments2023-04-02T03:28:11.593+01:00Comments on London Connections: Death of the Circle Line confirmedMr Thanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01380941017046817239noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-28084415577256379902011-08-05T22:59:28.691+01:002011-08-05T22:59:28.691+01:00What about...
Extending the Metropolitan line to ...What about...<br /><br />Extending the Metropolitan line to Barking<br /><br />Leaving the District line as it is<br /><br />Abolishing the Hammersmith & City line<br /><br />Extend the Circle line to HammersmithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-48971336216166891522009-03-07T00:20:00.001+00:002009-03-07T00:20:00.001+00:00I was under the impression this was so that the ci...I was under the impression this was so that the circle line could be run like any other line and that the reason it is subject to such a poor service and constant delays is because it is a circle, but turning it into such a strange and confusing layout may make it less effective than it is now. I think that a far better solution would be:<BR/><BR/>all Metropolitan line trains terminate at Baker street (freeing up tph on upper for H & C) <BR/><BR/>Wimbledon- Edgware Road services extended to Aldgate (utilising now free platforms)<BR/><BR/>Discontinuation of Circle line services and increase in tph on district and H&C lines. <BR/><BR/>H&C rerouted to terminate at Tower Hill rather than Whitechapel at peak times <BR/><BR/>Of course, this will never happen: rational thinking only seems to be evident when Governing bodies look at tube lines (although I know very little about the underground so you may think my plan is ludicrous, and if you do, please say so and why.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-27717538936130658782009-03-07T00:20:00.000+00:002009-03-07T00:20:00.000+00:00I was under the impression this was so that the ci...I was under the impression this was so that the circle line could be run like any other line and that the reason it is subject to such a poor service and constant delays is because it is a circle, but turning it into such a strange and confusing layout may make it less effective than it is now. I think that a far better solution would be:<BR/><BR/>all Metropolitan line trains terminate at Baker street (freeing up tph on upper for H & C) <BR/><BR/>Wimbledon- Edgware Road services extended to Aldgate (utilising now free platforms)<BR/><BR/>Discontinuation of Circle line services and increase in tph on district and H&C lines. <BR/><BR/>H&C rerouted to terminate at Tower Hill rather than Whitechapel at peak times <BR/><BR/>Of course, this will never happen: rational thinking only seems to be evident when Governing bodies look at tube lines (although I know very little about the underground so you may think my plan is ludicrous, and if you do, please say so and why.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-83653223116238233072008-07-21T00:06:00.000+01:002008-07-21T00:06:00.000+01:00Yes. Teacup is its unofficial name.Yes. Teacup is its unofficial name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-5865160726073086462008-07-12T04:49:00.000+01:002008-07-12T04:49:00.000+01:00Is this what they (LU people) call 'The Teacup'?Is this what they (LU people) call 'The Teacup'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-37388708066255785292008-07-11T23:35:00.000+01:002008-07-11T23:35:00.000+01:00See what i'm not quite understanding is soon there...See what i'm not quite understanding is soon there will be a substantial part of duplicate railway from Moorgate to Farringdon available. With a timely implentation by 2012 they could make those through platforms in both directions. The problem with terminating anything at moorgate on the underground at the current time is that there's no access to liverpool street which is where most punters want to go. It would be great if the third platform could be reinstated. but that's not going to happen.<BR/><BR/>With that implementation it's possible to have:<BR/><BR/>Metropolitan line to Aldgate/Whitechapel (clearance issues at the moment with A stock, but S Stock should be suitable)<BR/><BR/>Wimbledon to Whitechapel/Aldgate via High Street Kensington and Kings Cross<BR/><BR/>Richmond/High Street Kensington (peak time terminators) to to Farringdon via Tower Hill and Liverpool Street<BR/><BR/>Hammersmith to Barking via Liverpool Street and Whitechapel<BR/><BR/>High Street Kensington to Upminster via Victoria<BR/><BR/>Keep the present disctrict line services<BR/>Wimbledon/Richmond/Ealing Broadway/Olympia to Upminster with Tower Hill and Mansion House terminators<BR/><BR/>And continue with the planned Hammersmith to Edgware Road via Liverpool Street, Tower Hill , Victoria and High Street Kensington.<BR/><BR/>That's only one optionBaffobear@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554204113313112178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-24972628114983698032008-07-11T20:22:00.000+01:002008-07-11T20:22:00.000+01:00How on earth are they going to manage the volume o...How on earth are they going to manage the volume of trains between Paddington and Edgware Rd, and turning so many trains round there? This area is already an appalling bottleneck.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198251512967178695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-26500120601694050582008-07-11T15:42:00.000+01:002008-07-11T15:42:00.000+01:00They said they were having operating and timetabli...They said they were having operating and timetabling problems with driving trains continually around in circles.<BR/><BR/>Since they're doubling the frequency of trains on the Hammersmith branch, it probably won't make much of a difference to the H&C Line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-14702849221984894082008-07-11T10:44:00.000+01:002008-07-11T10:44:00.000+01:00What will happen to the H&C services that currentl...What will happen to the H&C services that currently terminate at Plaistow and Barking?<BR/><BR/>Many commuters from the east change at West Ham or Mile End, but LU miss a trick at Plaistow by not clearly advertising when a near-empty H&C service is leaving the bay platform. Instead commuters pack on to a District line service like sardines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-64118823562926290582008-07-11T00:21:00.000+01:002008-07-11T00:21:00.000+01:00The Curly Wurly Line. Looks a mess, will be a mess...The Curly Wurly Line. Looks a mess, will be a mess, just like the mess it is now. The SSL lines make the underground a joke as it is. This'll make no difference.Auxsetreqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447997061471993494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-53058614194023326382008-07-10T22:51:00.000+01:002008-07-10T22:51:00.000+01:00Anonymous #1: Apparently the documents available t...Anonymous #1: Apparently the documents available to staff say it's going to still be called the Circle Line<BR/><BR/>John B: Part of the purpose of this is to double the frequency on the Hammersmith branch.Mr Thanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380941017046817239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-55297165700540522332008-07-10T17:55:00.000+01:002008-07-10T17:55:00.000+01:00Yeah, I prefer it if it kept its name as the Circl...Yeah, I prefer it if it kept its name as the Circle Line.<BR/><BR/>By the way, what's wrong with having a new station between KX and Farringdon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-45599202386853723932008-07-10T15:14:00.000+01:002008-07-10T15:14:00.000+01:00Just leave it as the Circle line. That way people ...Just leave it as the Circle line. That way people won't notice any difference except a slightly better service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-27306370256934153592008-07-10T14:36:00.000+01:002008-07-10T14:36:00.000+01:00The MR article contains diagrams that show the pro...The MR article contains diagrams that show the proposed frequencies. The idea is for a H&C train every 5 minutes (off-peak) between Hammersmith and Liverpool Street: half the trains would then head eastwards through Aldgate East and half would loop back through Tower Hill, Victoria and High St Kensington to Edgware Road. <BR/><BR/>One of the advantages of this from LU's point of view (though not mentioned in the article) is that the new line would have the same standard frequency as the District Line services (every 10 minutes) so pathing H&C trains between District trains would be easier than at present. <BR/><BR/>The MR diagrams also indicate peak-hour frequencies, but this puzzles me. At present all the sub-surface lines have peak-frequencies based on units of 8.5 minutes (ie: 8.5 or 17 or 25.5). The peak frequencies in the MR article don't follow this pattern: so it isn't clear whether there is going to be a generalised change of peak hour frequencies on the sub-surface lines or if whether there is some other cunning plan (or the information is incorrect)<BR/><BR/>JJ BoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-10940266889930297972008-07-10T13:05:00.000+01:002008-07-10T13:05:00.000+01:00I'll buy a copy of MR shortly - but is there any i...I'll buy a copy of MR shortly - but is there any indication whether they're planning to increase frequency on the H&C west of Edgware Road, or to cut it between Liverpool Street and Whitechapel (one or the other would appear necessary, and the latter would be annoying).John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17024263999778310292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-51872024920455588932008-07-10T09:59:00.000+01:002008-07-10T09:59:00.000+01:00I reckon this is designed only to prevent any more...I reckon this is designed only to prevent any more rowdy Circle Line parties. Everybody would have to disembark at Edgware Road, and switch platforms, whereupon the BTP could snap closed their man-traps, and haul everyone to Pentonville.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13572230278397513185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-79830738754397988702008-07-10T07:35:00.000+01:002008-07-10T07:35:00.000+01:00"Hammersmith & Circle" line?"Hammersmith & Circle" line?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351343507770814926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-11658726051606423432008-07-10T01:12:00.000+01:002008-07-10T01:12:00.000+01:00I suggest the Spiral Line :-)I suggest the <I>Spiral Line</I> :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-26216940190223276912008-07-09T23:24:00.000+01:002008-07-09T23:24:00.000+01:00Do they have a name for it yet?Do they have a name for it yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com