tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post5774923605730964784..comments2023-04-02T03:28:11.593+01:00Comments on London Connections: Farringdon Thameslink works about to startMr Thanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01380941017046817239noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-30233169725544938552008-07-25T15:59:00.000+01:002008-07-25T15:59:00.000+01:00I'm your resident mole, I've sat in meetings discu...I'm your resident mole, I've sat in meetings discussing the Farringdon advanced works. lots of well meaning Engineers struggling to make NR designers understand LUL standards and visa versa. Having to totally reconfigure such an important station while keeping it open is a nightmare. It's like performing a heart transplant while the patient is not only awake but expected to indulge in a spot of light boxing. Makes my head hurt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-61917094021639485832008-07-20T18:58:00.000+01:002008-07-20T18:58:00.000+01:00Lifts are included in the rebuild of the station. ...Lifts are included in the rebuild of the station. Objecting because the first bit they need to rebuild isn't the one that's going to include the lifts doesn't seem especially reasonable to me.Mr Thanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380941017046817239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-21008918330129941532008-07-20T17:26:00.000+01:002008-07-20T17:26:00.000+01:00Anonymous 1 - okay, NR planners. But so what if th...Anonymous 1 - okay, NR planners. But so what if these are advance works only? I take it you feel accessibility is fine when cobbled on as an afterthought, then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-85057746824153823102008-07-20T11:18:00.000+01:002008-07-20T11:18:00.000+01:00Thanks for the heads-up Paul. If anyone else wants...Thanks for the heads-up Paul. If anyone else wants to know where it mentions the future status of the Turnmill Street exit it's on page 2 of the Design Statement (W02).<BR/><BR/>[http://tinyurl.com/5gtqoe]<BR/><BR/>Metro have issued a press release via TfL on the Farringdon works quoting a start date of next Sunday (July 27), with EDF Energy carrying out electrical maintainence works on that day.<BR/><BR/>[http://tinyurl.com/5gf79u]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-91321439401738577272008-07-19T22:36:00.000+01:002008-07-19T22:36:00.000+01:00anon - I'm not sure what you mean by using the 'Fa...anon - I'm not sure what you mean by using the 'Farringdon - Moorgate link' for trains. It isn't going to be connected to NR, the 12 car platforms remove the junction. What use would LU have for it other than sidings?<BR/><BR/>MSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-78203405950796730422008-07-19T22:32:00.000+01:002008-07-19T22:32:00.000+01:00Its a pity if they don't use the Moorgate-Farringd...Its a pity if they don't use the Moorgate-Farringdon link for trains, but I suspect Mr Thant is right and that they will use it for sidings. There are just too many other ongoing schemes at the moment, and we are heading into a recession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-74406736290937764722008-07-19T20:56:00.000+01:002008-07-19T20:56:00.000+01:00edvid - the Turnmill St emergency exit will be cha...edvid - the Turnmill St emergency exit will be changed into a normal entrance about 18 months after completion - it's in the depths of one of the planning documents.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10499014200475681500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-11261814405180515362008-07-19T19:07:00.000+01:002008-07-19T19:07:00.000+01:00I've just realised there many other separate appli...I've just realised there many other separate applications, so I may be wrong; I haven't read many of them yet.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I found a brochure for the crap LCD indicators (found between Bedford and Farringdon) while looking at the other planning applications!<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/5feykrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-53928870166485073402008-07-19T18:44:00.000+01:002008-07-19T18:44:00.000+01:00Mr Thant, you're welcome. And many thanks for the ...Mr Thant, you're welcome. And many thanks for the link to the planning application - there is a wealth of diagrams available for the preliminary works.<BR/><BR/>Until I saw the diagrams I hadn't realised that the Turnmill Street exit would be for emergency purposes only - FCC just labelled it as a normal entrance/exit in their leaflet and, surprisingly, during the LondonTravelWatch Board Meeting of April 1.<BR/><BR/>I'm certain the planned preliminary works have not changed because the application was approved on February 25...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-27354620488515165322008-07-19T14:29:00.000+01:002008-07-19T14:29:00.000+01:00hex - these are advance works only, to allow for t...hex - these are advance works only, to allow for the increased NR/LU interchange following Moorgate branch closure. These are only a small part of the eventual changes - and they are down to NR not LUL anyway, Thameslink is a NR project.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-33658841712528644632008-07-19T12:02:00.000+01:002008-07-19T12:02:00.000+01:00No ramps for wheelchair users. Another triumph for...No ramps for wheelchair users. Another triumph for LUL planners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-79497486768689805622008-07-19T09:58:00.000+01:002008-07-19T09:58:00.000+01:00Edvid: Thanks for the correctionMichaelh: Whoever ...Edvid: Thanks for the correction<BR/><BR/>Michaelh: Whoever did FCC's diagram has missed it off. It's in the planning application I've just posted.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous: There are a million fantasy schemes, though I'd say the most likely use is just as sidings for London Underground. There's a very outside chance of a DLR extension from Bank.Mr Thanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380941017046817239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-85828432276033137752008-07-19T04:14:00.000+01:002008-07-19T04:14:00.000+01:00Anyone know whats going to happen to the Moorgate-...Anyone know whats going to happen to the Moorgate-Farringdon section once its closed? It would seem like a good spot for some sort of Waterloo & City Line shuttle line. I think there is a disused link to Liverpool Street that could be reactivated as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-8194023655247636942008-07-18T23:47:00.000+01:002008-07-18T23:47:00.000+01:00Thanks for this. I'd noticed the markings on the p...Thanks for this. I'd noticed the markings on the platform in recent weeks, and wondered when it was all meant to start.<BR/><BR/>In the 'after' picture there appears to be a third staircase from the new footbridge (facing northwards), which does not appear in the diagram on the leaflet.<BR/><BR/>Is the plan to add this staircase at a later stage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6658085720825863941.post-25865563794048251552008-07-18T23:35:00.000+01:002008-07-18T23:35:00.000+01:00[pedant]It's Key Output 0[/pedant] ;)It was only t...[pedant]It's Key <B>Output</B> 0[/pedant] ;)<BR/><BR/>It was only three months ago that these works were announced as starting in May - it's been pushed back by one month, every month for the last three months now, and if they're not careful they won't be finished by the time the Moorgate branch is closed. Farringdon is busy enough as it is right now, so it is critical that the new footbridge and Turnmill Street exit are ready by 1 March 2009.<BR/><BR/>With a potential recession around the corner we can ill afford to let the Thameslink Programme fall further off schedule - the intended completion of Key Output 0 has already slipped by more than 2 months.<BR/><BR/>While the works are going on I'll get on/off at City Thameslink and London Blackfriars more often - unless I'm catching an EMT service I'll continue to avoid getting on at London St Pancras. If I'm travelling off-peak then I'll continue use any of the <I>London Thameslink</I> stations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com