Sunday, 27 July 2008

That London Overground interchange map

London Overground have quietly added walking interchanges to the London Overground network map found on trains:

Oddly they don't tell you which line the other station is on (except at West Hampstead), and some of them are completely useless (Kensal Green to Kensal Rise) and, as noted, some of the most useful ones are missing (Wanstead Park-Forest Gate).

Of course there's nothing saying these are meant as interchanges at all. Maybe they're just to show that stations in places you've never heard of (like Brondesbury) are near places you have (Kilburn).

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder why they missed out Euston Square?

Met, H&C & Circle line trains include an Overground Euston interchange at Euston Square on their in-train line maps, so why not the reverse?

Neil W said...

I like to consider myself a fairly active individual, but I think 800m as an "interchange" is pushing the definition a bit.

NW Simon said...

What's particularly odd is that West Hampstead has no National Rail (or airport connection) sign.

I think it's a nice idea, though, to promote these interchanges, given the lack of direct connections. Maybe a pamphlet explaining them further would be a nice idea.

Alan Ji said...

Looking at the map tells me that all the interchanges listed are only with London Underground stations.

NW Simon said...

Ah, you're right. Well, that's a bit silly. For one thing, Kentish Town must be nearer to Kentish Town West than Chalk Farm.

Anonymous said...

That's true I guess. And there is no need to change between Kensal Rise/Green if you can do that a Willesden Junction without walking 4/5 of a kilometre. Changing between West Hampstead stations (100m) also makes more sense than Brondsbury-Kilburn (390m). I agree that they've only been adding tube interchanges. As well as Wanstead Park/Forest Gate, they have missed off Hackney Downs/Central.

Anonymous said...

(Same user speaking)

Still, we're nitpicking and this certainly is helpful when you're travelling!

NW Simon said...

No, it's a nice idea despite its faults. I suspect the useless connections (like those in Kilburn), aren't intended as connections at all, more to tell you that you don't have to change at Queen's Park/Willesen Junction/West Hampstead to get between these places, it's quicker to walk (as the main post hints)

kenromford said...

Another strange one is West Brompton/Earls Court, which is the only walking interchange shown which has a direct service between the two stations.

Again, I suppose it's to say "You may not know where West Brompton is, but look, it's near(ish) to Earls Court!", rather than to say 'Alight here and walk 700 metres to connect with the District line'

Still, people unfamiliar with London will go all kinds of weird routes, as evidenced by an old friend, new to London from Liverpool, who wanted to go from Hammersmith, where he lived, to Chiswick. So he went, logically enough, from the station called "Hammersmith" to the station called "Chiswick" via Embankment and Waterloo!

Anonymous said...

Isn't there a station on the GOBLIN that provides an interchange with the Northern Line?

Anonymous said...

kentish town west is probably closer to chalk farm than it is to kentish town... but only just. Perhaps they should show both!

the walk from upper holloway on the GOBLIN to archway on the Northern line must be within 800m or so, so logically ought to be added to the map

Mr Thant (Editor) said...

Upper Holloway to Archway on the Northern Line is already on there.

Sweek said...

Shepherd's Bush should surely be an interchange as well?

Anonymous said...

What about Croxley (Met) to Croxley Green (L&NW)?

It's 'only' the distance of a short bridge (and £100m) away, after all...

nick said...

Walking from West Brompton to Earl's Court can work out quicker if you need to change trains there. Incoming District line trains often have to wait quite a while for a platform. West Brompton is also right next to the exhibition centre.
I see Imperial Wharf isn't marked, despite it looking rather more "under construction" than when it started appearing on other maps.

Anonymous said...

They also missed out Hackney Central to Hackney Downs, although I believe there may be plans to link those with a new shorter route on railway land.

Enver Nigmatouline said...

No, Harringay and Harringay Green Lanes?